【「アンニョン!韓国」062.韓国の会社事情!派閥・セクハラ・出世競争・コネ入社はドラマみたいにある?】の文字起こしスクリプトです。
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はいさてやってまいりましたアンニョン韓国。今回はですねリスナーさんから頂いたお題で話していきたいと思います
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호호호
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はい。今回のそのリスナーさんからもらったお題がですね。皆さんご覧になったか分かりませんけれども2014年にですね放送されたミセンというドラマがあるんですけれども韓国の会社を舞台にしたものでその会社内のいろんなことをねドラマでは描いているんですが、本当にこう韓国の会社は強い派閥があったりとか上司が社員に手をあげたりだとか簡単にクビにしてしまうような傾向があるのかとかね。またそれが日本よりも強いのかパワハラセクハラまあいろんなことがあると思うんですけども、そういったのは韓国は今もあるのかみたいなことをAさんからお題をいただきました
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음 그렇군요
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そうなんですよね。JPさんその実際にそういう事ってあるんでしょうかね
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근데 이게 사토상 미생 봤어요?
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僕ねちょっと申し上げにくいんですけどちょっと見てないんですね
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어 이거 한번 나중에 꼭 보세요 근데 저는 봤어요 봤는데 실제는 어떠냐 뭐 이렇게 말씀하셔도 제가 정확한 답을 솔직히 드리기 어려운 게 한국에서 그런 직장에서 일해 본 적이 없기 때문에
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ああなるほどそっかそっか
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그렇지만 그래도 이제 친구들 얘기를 듣는다던지 아니면 주변 사람들을 통해서 어쨌든 직장 생활 하는 사람들도 있고
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はいですね
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그런 회사를 다니고 있는 사람들도 있으니까 얘기를 들어보면 드라마는 드라마예요 결론을 말씀드리자면 드라마는 드라마일 뿐이다
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なるほどえってことは本当にこういったことは起きないってことなんですか
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아 그렇게 딱 단정지어서 말하기 어렵고 드라마라는 것은 어디까지나 재미가 있어야 되잖아요
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そうですねうん
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재미가 있어야 되다 보니까 그런 드라마틱한 요소들이 아무래도 많이 들어가 있고 그 극중 보면 사건 사고가 끊이지 않고 어찌보면 평범한 일상이 아니고 너무 다이나믹한 일상이 계속해서 벌어진다고 볼 수 있죠 그 드라마의 내용을 보면
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はいはい。大体1話ごとにというより1話の中にもその起伏が何個もあってというそういう風になってますからね
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그렇죠 드라마로서는 그렇게 할 수밖에 없는 게 맞아요 근데 이제 현실에서 그런 일들이 일어날 수 있어요
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おお現実でもそういったことが
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그리고 분명히 그 작가가 어떤 그런 현실을 실화를 배경으로 그런 것들을 또 작성을 했을 수도 있고
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なるほどはいはいはい
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작가가 대본을 썼을 수도 있고 그렇게 때문에 이게 뭐 현실하고 완전 다르다 이런 말은 할 수 없지만 계속 해서 그런 일들이 현실에서 일어나지 않겠죠
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まあそうですねはい。だから実際にドラマで起きる事っていうのは現実世界でも起きうることを背景に作ってるわけですけれども現実よりもちょっと過大にというんですかね。ちょっとこう起伏を激しく作ってあると言うかいうところはあるって事ですよね
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그렇죠
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ただその実際にでも例えばこう社員に手をあげたりとか簡単にクビにしちゃったりとかってあるんですかね
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그런 부분은요 이제 미생에 나오는 기업을 보면 회사가 작은 회사가 아니에요 종합상사란 말이에요
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総合商社はい
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그렇죠 종합상사면 일본에도 큰 종합상사 다섯 개 정도 있죠
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そうですね
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미쓰이 미쓰비시 이토추 마루베니 또 어디죠 뭐 그런 식으로 있단 말이에요
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ありますねよく知ってますね
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응 그 정도 클래스 회사인 거예요
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はいはいはい
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배경이 그 정도의 그 큰 大手 대기업 같은 대기업까지 아니더라도 중견기업 이상의 기업은 사실 요즘에 그런 일들이 별로 없죠 있을 수가 없죠 그니까 뭐 상사라고 해서 부하에게 이렇게 손찌검을 한다던가 아니면 성희롱을 한다던가 그런 게 거의 보기 힘들다고 보시면 돼요 있으면 뭐 큰일 나 큰일 나죠
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まあそうですよね
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옛날에 있었을 수도 있어요
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そうですね。昔はもしかしたらあったかもしれないけれども今そういったことが大手であると大問題になってしまうからまあまず今はそんなにないだろうと
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그렇죠 제대로 된 회사일수록 없어요 그런 게 큰 기업일 수록
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あーなるほどちゃんとしてる大きいところだからこそないと言うかね
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오히려 그런 어떤 약간 종류가 다르긴 한데 예를 들면 여성에 대해서 여성사원에 대해서 성희롱이나 이런 것들을 찾아보기 힘들지라도 남성 사원과의 어떤 차별 이런 것들은 좀 있을 수 있겠죠 어찌 보면
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うーん
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회사에 따라서는
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へえそうですか
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응 근데 요즘에는 이런 부분도 한국의 요즘 최근 트렌드가 되게 남녀평등 그 다음에 또 공정 이런 것들이 좀 최근이라고 해야 되나 여 몇 년 사이 들어서 그런 것들이 많이 부각이 되고 이러다 보니까 여성을 따로 차별하고 이런 것들이 아마 많이 없어졌을 거예요
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ああ
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최근에는 더 더
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じゃあそのあたりもまあ昔に比べて今はかなり女性に対しての差別ってのも最近はかなりなくなってきている。だからこのミセンっていうドラマも2014年に放送されたと思うんですけれども
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네 그렇죠
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それから7年経った今はさらに減っていると見ることができるということですね
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한국에서 7년이면 그래도 변화가 없다고는 말하기 힘든 그런 기간이라고 저는 생각을 해요
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そっかそっかその前から韓国っていうのはそういうのセクハラみたいなのってあまりなかったんですかね
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직접적인 그런 건 저는 제가 직접 본 적이 없어요 일단은 어떤 사회생활하면서 사회생활과 관련없이 어떤 범죄로서는 뭐 뉴스에도 나오고 그런 것도 있을 수 있겠지만 정말 같은 직장 내에서 성희롱 이런 것들을 제가 직접 경험한 적은 없고 본 적도 없고
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ふーん
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그런게 없다고는 말 못 하는데 왜냐면 제가 여성이 아니다 보니까 제가 어디까지나 제가 남성이다 보니까 여성의 입장에서 이게 없다고 말할 수가 없어요
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そうですね確かに
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분명히 여성분들만 알 수 있는 그죠 어떤 그런 부분이 남아 있을 수 있고
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確かに確かに
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근데 이제 그런 부분이 많이 이제 해를 거듭하면 거듭할수록 좋아지는 느낌은 들어요 계속해서 그런 부분을 사회적으로도 이제 이슈화시키고 또 어떤 성범죄나 이런 부분에 있어서 되게 한국 남성들에 대한 처벌이 가혹해요 어떻게 보면 좀
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なるほど
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그렇게 하니까 이제 없어지겠죠
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そうですね。あのやっぱり最近は特にその男女平等という流れですねは非常にこう加速加熱しているというのは僕も身をもって感じるところなのでだいぶこのね数年で社会も変わってきてるかなっていうところはありますよね
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그렇죠 뭐 일단 미생에서 그런 부분을 되게 좀 완전 현실적은 아니더라도 과장을 약간 해서라도 되게 잘 보여 줬다고 생각을 해요
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うんそうですか
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예를 들면 성희롱 같은 거는 뭐 그런 사람의 문제니까 이건 하는 사람이 잘못된 거죠
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うんうんうん
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그런데 미생에 또 어떤 장면 있냐면 그런 게 있어요 이제 여성 사원이 여성분들은 이제 결혼을 하면 회사를 그만두는 경우도 있고 아니면 임신을 하는 경우도 또 있을 수 있잖아요
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そうですね
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그러면 도중에 이제 출산 휴가를 써야 될 수도 있고 그런 부분이 어떤 회사나 팀 안에 있어서 약간 좀 민폐라고 말하기는 어렵지만 약간 그런 분위기가 있단 말이야 아아 한 명이 또 빠져 가지고 우리 힘들게 됐네 알죠 어떤 건지
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うんうんうん
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그런 인식이 예전에 있었다면 그런 부분들을 이제 드라마에서 부각시키면서 이러면 안 된다 이런 식으로 보여 준 게 아닐까
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あーなるほどねはいはいはい
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그죠 너무나 자연스러운 거고 또 어떻게 보면 여성들이 결혼을 해서 임신한다는 거는 굉장히 사회적으로도 그렇고 개인적으로 축복받을 일인 거잖아요 근데 그걸 굉장히 안 좋은 시선으로 회사에서 자기들이 이익이 되지 않는다는 시선으로 그렇게 한다는 거는 되게 요즘 선진국에서는 상상 힘든 일이죠
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うんうんうん。だからこのミセンっていうドラマ自体も数々の賞を受賞したそうなんですけれどもやっぱその受賞する理由の一つとしてその社会問題を取り上げてそれを見ている側にうまく伝えたっていうところも評価されたポイントなんでしょうかねもしかしたらね
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응 개인적으로는 그렇게 생각을 하는 부분도 있고 저도 본지 좀 돼서 모든 걸 다 기억하지 않는데 거기에 나왔던 공감할 수 있는 내용들이 많이 있어요 요소들이 예들면 직장인들 입장에서는 직장 생활의 어려움 그런 상사를 상대하고 또 아니면 협력하는 회사 관계에서 접대를 해야 되는 어려움 뭐 이런 것들이 있어요 업무에 어려움이 있을 수도 있겠고 또 한 가지는 뭐가 있을까요 어떤 청년들의 취업 취업할 때 어렵잖아요 서로 경쟁해야 되고
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うんですね
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그런 치열함 또 하나는 그 직장여성들이 직장 생활하면서 겪는 어려움 뭐 보면 막 그런 것 나와요 커피 타야 되는 거 그리고 남녀차별 그런 거부터 시작해서 그런 것들도 있을 수 있고 또 하나는 정규직 비정규직 주인공이 비정규직으로 들어가거든요
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うんうんうん
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어떤 그럼 여러 가지 이제 지금 현재에 이제 한국 사회의 여러 계층이 특히나 어떤 청년들이 공감할 수 있는 요소들이 드라마에 되게 많아요
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なるほどね
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그런 부분을 사회 문제 뿐만이 아니라 어떤 하나의 스토리로 잘 녹여내서 또 배우들이 연기를 되게 그런 감정이입을 잘 해서 잘 표현했다고 생각하기 때문에 되게 좋은 드라마가 만들어지지 않나
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なるほどねあーもちろんだからその
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어쩌다 보니까 계속 지금 계속 그 미생이란 드라마에 대해서 얘기하고 있는데 응
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いやでも本当そうですね。だからそういった社会問題をうまく取り上げたりそれをストーリー立ててねうまくその流れにのせていったりとかまたそれを演じる役者さん達もすごくその役を演じきったみたいなところが総合的に今評価されたからこういったね数々の賞を受賞したってことかもしれないですけども。でもやっぱその中で描かれているその社会的その背景って言うんですかねは割と現実世界を反映しているって事ことなんですよね
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네 저는 그렇게 생각합니다
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じゃあえっとこの質問を頂いたそのAさんへのアンサーとしては完全に一緒ではないけれども結構あり得る話ではあるよってことですね
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예 그렇게 생각해요
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なるほどほほう。いや僕も勉強になりましたねこれは。そっかそっか
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그리고 또 그게 뭉뚱그려서 얘기할 수 없는 부분이 또 있는 게 직종에 따라서 또 다를 수 있거든요
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ですよねそうそうそう
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보면 여기 종합상사잖아요 종합상사에서 벌어지는 일들을 그리다 보니까 일반적인 직장이랑 또 다를 수 있는 부분이 있고
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うんですね
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그렇기 때문에 한국 직장은 이러지 않다라고 말하기 좀 힘든 부분이 있을 수 있고 일본의 종합상사랑 또 다를 수 있고 한국의 종합상사가
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あーなるほどはいはいはい
네
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でも確かにそうですね。だから僕もさっき勉強になったっていったのは僕が今働いている環境と総合商社って言うとまだ全然違うジャンルになるんで。日本でも同じように考えれるんですけどもそういう三菱とかね三井とかそういうところで働いてる人と個人店とかねなんかそういう個人でやってる人たちとは全然状況が違うわけなんで、まあそのすべての社会全体でそういったことが行われてるというわけではなくてですね。場面場面では違うんですけれども総合商社内では割とそういった雰囲気に近い感じだっていうことですよね
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네
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いいですかねこんな感じでね。まとめとしてはいいのか分からないんですけれども
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좋은 뭐 답변이 됐는지 모르겠는데 제가 느끼기엔 그렇습니다
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なるほどわかりました。まあそのね今のこの時間内ではねもう全てはちょっと語りきれないところではあるんですけれどもまあえーとそうですね。ドラマをね楽しく見つつある程度こういったことがあるんだっていうねことも頭に入れながらねまたドラマを楽しんでみるといいんではないかと思います。ってことで
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하이
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ってことで今回は以上になります。最後まで聞いていただいて今回もありがとうございました。
![“【JP】"](https://marukan01.com/wp-content/themes/simplicity2/images/1x1.trans.gif)
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ありがとうございます
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そうですね。もしこういった話の中でなかなか難しい単語っていうかねも出てきたと思うのでそういう分からない単語とかは文字起こしスクリプト概要欄にありますのでそちらを是非チェックしてみてください。それから何かためになったなとかちょっとでも面白いなとか感じるようでしたら、できればでこのsnsとかでシェアしていただけると非常にうれしいですのでシェアとかコメントお待ちしております
![“【JP】"](https://marukan01.com/wp-content/themes/simplicity2/images/1x1.trans.gif)
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よろしくお願いします
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ありがとうございます。っていうことで今回は以上になります。それではまたばいばい
![“【JP】"](https://marukan01.com/wp-content/themes/simplicity2/images/1x1.trans.gif)
![“【JP】"](https://marukan01.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/76604494c07ce3941c16ad5cb224f291.jpg)
じゃあね
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